A podcast dedicated to learning about the legal profession by learning from the stories of those who do it. Each week the podcast interviews a lawyer about what they do, why they do it, and how they do it well.
📚 Time Stamps
[00:00:08] Charting a path in aviation law
[00:08:43] Being an aviation lawyer on 9/11
[00:11:34] Airline Security and lawyers after 9/11
[00:17:41] The importance of building relationships and not burning bridges
[00:26:34] How Mark learned an industry from in-house counsel to outside counsel to in-house counsel once again
[00:33:50] His new role as an ombudsmen and how his legal training set him up for this role
[00:41:20] Finding and learning from mentors
[00:45:21] Closing advice: persistence pays off
Host and Creator
Jonah Perlin teaches legal practice and advanced legal writing courses at Georgetown Law as a full-time Associate Professor of Law, Legal Practice. Before coming to the Law Center in 2018, he worked for several years as a litigator at Williams & Connolly LLP in Washington, D.C. where he specialized in complex civil litigation in the United States and abroad. While at Williams & Connolly he also taught advanced legal writing at the Law Center as an Adjunct Professor. Professor Perlin clerked for Chief Judge Robert A. Katzmann of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit and Judge Ellen Segal Huvelle of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia.
He received his J.D., magna cum laude, from Georgetown in 2012, where he was an Articles Editor for the Georgetown Law Journal and a law fellow in the Legal Research and Writing Program. He received his A.B., magna cum laude, from Princeton University and his A.M. in Religious Studies from the University of Chicago Divinity School where he studied contemporary Jewish and Christian ethics.
Jonah started the How I Lawyer Podcast in January 2021 in order to share the stories from lawyers across the profession about what they do, why they do it, and how they do it well. The goal of the podcast is to create permissionless networking opportunities at scale for the benefit of future law students, current law students, new lawyers, and seasoned practitioners.
He lives in Washington, D.C. with his wife Debra and two young daughters. In his spare time he enjoys cooking elaborate dishes for friends and family, rooting for D.C. sports teams, traveling, and tinkering with new technology. He can be reached at howilawyer (at) gmail.com.
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A must-listen for law students
"I highly recommend this podcast to law students and new lawyers! The conversations are honest and educational, akin to Guy Raz's "How I Built This.” Professor Perlin's thoughtful interview style and …"
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"As a young lawyer, I often wonder how other lawyers do the job. This podcast answers that question and more. It’s a great resource and I look forward to many more episodes."
Fantastic Resource for Law Students or Anyone in the Legal Profession
"In law school they teach you a lot about the law, but not a whole lot about what lawyers actually do. This podcast is a fantasic resource for anyone who wants to learn more about different career pat…"